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This is a cost effective system: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YZjpnQ
While this is a less cost-effective system (albeit a fair bit more powerful): http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FPcqJx

With the first build, you could purchase a number of them and run them simultaneously, which will give you more bots than the less cost-effective system.

Thanks man

However,I don't need case.SSD is a better choice,and RMate needs more memory,so i changed it a little bit:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7tH2Lk

@Lnr30
lol,can't wait
 
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Thanks man

However,I don't need case.SSD is a better choice,and RMate needs more memory,so i changed it a little bit:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7tH2Lk

@Lnr30
lol,can't wait
Yeah I didn't pick an SSD as you'd end up with a surplus if you were to buy multiple systems.
And since they're only used for botting, an SSD would essentially be wasted on it.

RAM is understandable, although I cannot see an FX-8350 utilizing 16GB of RAM.
 
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Yeah I didn't pick an SSD as you'd end up with a surplus if you were to buy multiple systems.
And since they're only used for botting, an SSD would essentially be wasted on it.

RAM is understandable, although I cannot see an FX-8350 utilizing 16GB of RAM.

Yeah,it's ok to go with a HDD when you run less than 5 bot.But with 8 bot SSD is highly recommended due to the high IOPS.Especially if your bot teleports often.You'll end up with higher gold per hour,and it takes tenth time to fully load 8 bot.
 
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Yeah,it's ok to go with a HDD when you run less than 5 bot.But with 8 bot SSD is highly recommended due to the high IOPS.Especially if your bot teleports often.You'll end up with higher gold per hour,and it takes tenth time to fully load 8 bot.
I personally can't see a bot utilizing enough IOPS to bottleneck a HDD, and none of my previous clients have complained about performance issues.
Bare in mind some clients request systems capable of over 40 bots, one of which bought a dual xeon system.
 
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dual xeon system?how much does it costs?
I don't recall as I was banned from that forum unfortunately, but it was rather expensive, some people are very into their farms.
Not sure if you've been apart of other communities, but well known people such as Ironhide and Xhyalus (two I remember off the top of my head), were people who buy multiple i7 rigs for large farms and neither suffered from issues with a hard drive.
 
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I don't recall as I was banned from that forum unfortunately, but it was rather expensive, some people are very into their farms.
Not sure if you've been apart of other communities, but well known people such as Ironhide and Xhyalus (two I remember off the top of my head), were people who buy multiple i7 rigs for large farms and neither suffered from issues with a hard drive.
Banned for giving bad advice....
 
Thanks man

However,I don't need case.SSD is a better choice,and RMate needs more memory,so i changed it a little bit:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7tH2Lk

@Lnr30
lol,can't wait
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/hB6rCJ

Sorry for the wait, I wanted to get the best possible parts for your build. If you go for this build you won't have any issues.
 
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I don't recall as I was banned from that forum unfortunately, but it was rather expensive, some people are very into their farms.
Not sure if you've been apart of other communities, but well known people such as Ironhide and Xhyalus (two I remember off the top of my head), were people who buy multiple i7 rigs for large farms and neither suffered from issues with a hard drive.

Yeah it's possible to not to suffer from performance issues with HDD.but not with Runemate

@Lnr30
Nice Athlon :)
 
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Yeah it's possible to not to suffer from performance issues with HDD.but not with Runemate

@Lnr30
Nice Athlon :)
That's essentially suggesting that Runemate is poorly optimized, I can't see the client utilizing that many IOPS, regardless of your storage situation.
 
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That's essentially suggesting that Runemate is poorly optimized, I can't see the client utilizing that many IOPS, regardless of your storage situation.
start up 8 bot with HDD and let's see what happens ;)
run each of them with different users
 
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start up 8 bot with HDD and let's see what happens ;)
run each of them with different users
As much as I'd like to, I quit RS 3 years ago.
If you run Windows 8, you can show me a printscreen of your Task Manager, it will show the Megabytes per second used by any application.
 
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As much as I'd like to, I quit RS 3 years ago.
If you run Windows 8, you can show me a printscreen of your Task Manager, it will show the Megabytes per second used by any application.
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Yeah as I thought, a HDD would easily run that, 25mb/s io is fine.
Hard drives can typically go up to around 130mb/s (excluding the awful VelociRaptor).

I think at this point it is pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. botmagic if you head over to my thread you can get some professional advice.
 
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Yeah as I thought, a HDD would easily run that, 25mb/s io is fine.
Hard drives can typically go up to around 130mb/s (excluding the awful VelociRaptor).
yeah,if we're talking about sequential reading.but it's not just sequential,so it will be a LOT slower

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that's what i'm talking about :) when random read comes,HDD dies
 
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yeah,if we're talking about sequential reading.but it's not just sequential,so it will be a LOT slower

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that's what i'm talking about :) when random read comes,HDD dies
I see your point, however I still don't believe an SSD is necessary when the actual read/write operations are due to Runescape and not RM. Meaning every bot will have approximately the same IOPS, like you said teleporting will be one of the only benefits it provides, which imo isn't cost effective.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, the data for the current section of Runescape's map (and many other logical functions) is loaded into the RAM, so Runescape only utilizes the hard drive for two types of things: loading new map sections, which seems to be a largely sequential task; and loading internet/server-downloaded data for interactions and chat dialogue, which should take up very little bandwidth.

So I agree with YubiBotter - an HDD should do just finely.
For one or two systems, the cost difference etween an SSD and an HDD isn't that large, so I would get a 128 gigs SSD just because. But for several systems, the extra cost might start compounding.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, the data for the current section of Runescape's map (and many other logical functions) is loaded into the RAM, so Runescape only utilizes the hard drive for two types of things: loading new map sections, which seems to be a largely sequential task; and loading internet/server-downloaded data for interactions and chat dialogue, which should take up very little bandwidth.

So I agree with YubiBotter - an HDD should do just finely.
For one or two systems, the cost difference etween an SSD and an HDD isn't that large, so I would get a 128 gigs SSD just because. But for several systems, the extra cost might start compounding.


Actually that is incorrect, RAM is not used while playing Runescape at all. Everything is done through the HDD so it would be best for him to get a 500GB+ SSD because it keeps writing more and more data to the hard drive and will fill it up pretty quickly when botting on multiple accounts. A 120GB SSD would only last about 2 weeks with constant botting because of this so the larger the SSD he gets the longer he can go without having to reformat.
 
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