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Woah, that's pretty high priced xD. I'd say too much for Processor and Video card ^^
What makes the intel 8 core 3GHz better than let's say, Intel Core i7-4790K 4GHz?
xD I thought as much.
The 5960X has 8 real cores and it's hyperthreaded, as opposed to the Intel i7-4790k which is 4 real cores and hyperthreaded.
So the 5960X essentially has 16 hyperthreaded cores, and the 4790k has 8 hyperthreaded cores, as you can probably tell, the 5960x is a bit of a beast.
Yeah I was assuming this was a relatively non-mindful build in terms of price :p That's why it's important to specify budgets, so I assume you're looking more towards an i7-4790k?
 
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xD I thought as much.
The 5960X has 8 real cores and it's hyperthreaded, as opposed to the Intel i7-4790k which is 4 real cores and hyperthreaded.
So the 5960X essentially has 16 hyperthreaded cores, and the 4790k has 8 hyperthreaded cores, as you can probably tell, the 5960x is a bit of a beast.
Yeah I was assuming this was a relatively non-mindful build in terms of price :p That's why it's important to specify budgets, so I assume you're looking more towards an i7-4790k?

Indeed, I have a €700 pc, which went up to €1000 when I broke my mobo trying to pull of the processor (ye, stupid me).
I was kinda thinking about replacing it all for a NUC since it's very small. I am looking for something beast and quiet with large SSD storage.

I would say a budget of $1,000 would be ideal.
 
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Indeed, I have a €700 pc, which went up to €1000 when I broke my mobo trying to pull of the processor (ye, stupid me).
I was kinda thinking about replacing it all for a NUC since it's very small. I am looking for something beast and quiet with large SSD storage.

I would say a budget of $1,000 would be ideal.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dJRtqs
I can answer anything you might question :p
 
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@YubiBotter - My friend is about to purchase this build here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TqFtbv
However, he is stuck between whether he wants the 5930k, which would cost him about $500 less than 5960x, or the 5960. What would be your reccomendation? And do you have a keyboard and mice in mind that would fit this build? Don't worry about budget, he will also be getting logitech z5500 speaker set.
 
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@YubiBotter - My friend is about to purchase this build here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TqFtbv
However, he is stuck between whether he wants the 5930k, which would cost him about $500 less than 5960x, or the 5960. What would be your reccomendation? And do you have a keyboard and mice in mind that would fit this build? Don't worry about budget, he will also be getting logitech z5500 speaker set.
First off, what's he using it for? That will greatly determine a lot of things for me.
Keyboards I would recommend anything from Ducky, they're built like fortresses and I absolutely love them.
Mouse is dependent upon what he's doing imo, I use the Logitech G600 since I need the extra buttons.

Also, Logitech speaker sets are good as well imo, I have an old Z2300 for the last 4 or 5 years and I still love it.
 
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In which case, this build should suffice:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7P22f7
I would suggest hard drives, however I find that's typically personal preference as everyone has their own hobbies etc which will inevitably result in varying amounts of storage, though I can highly recommend Western Digital Red drives of any capacity.
Given that the build was from 2010, the RAM is going to be DDR3 which means you can re-use it, the motherboard is probably a very old chipset so I would recommend a new one alongside the CPU.

Since you're oriented towards the bang for your buck, the 290 is a better deal in comparison to a 290x which is $60 more for a negligible performance increase at best. Naturally the FX-8350 is a great choice for your intended uses as it is designed for a multitasking load.
If you feel the need for another case, I highly recommend the one in the build, it can come in white if that's your preference, the build quality is fantastic whilst pre-filled with noise dampening foam (which imo is a big positive)

I would of swapped out the 8350 for a high end i5, a quad core with hyperthreading, it may be a little more expensive but it would be worth it. That is just my opinion.
 
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I would of swapped out the 8350 for a high end i5, a quad core with hyperthreading, it may be a little more expensive but it would be worth it. That is just my opinion.
i5's don't have hyperthreading, only i7's will have that feature.
i5's have a maximum of 4 cores which isn't great when you consider Direct X 12 is on the way.
 
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First off, what's he using it for? That will greatly determine a lot of things for me.
Keyboards I would recommend anything from Ducky, they're built like fortresses and I absolutely love them.
Mouse is dependent upon what he's doing imo, I use the Logitech G600 since I need the extra buttons.

Also, Logitech speaker sets are good as well imo, I have an old Z2300 for the last 4 or 5 years and I still love it.
Basically programming, some Photoshop, and gaming. He wants a build to last him 5-10 years so he is willing to spend the dough
 
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Basically programming, some Photoshop, and gaming. He wants a build to last him 5-10 years so he is willing to spend the dough
Thing is, that build wouldn't last him 5 years imo, let alone 10.
Also, for "future-proofing" I would highly recommend that he waits until there are some custom coolers for Titan X's and buy two of those instead of a GTX 980 for a multitude of reasons.
1) Titan X has 12GB per card, which with the development of DirectX12 can mean stackable VRAM in SLI configurations which is fantastic for high resolution textures.
2) The Titan X is a literal monster for 4k, and two 980s don't really make the cut when you're pushing a 4k panel at max details.

To make that more affordable, I would drop the Rampage mobo and change the Dominator RAM for something less premium because it won't change a thing in terms of longevity or performance.
I would also recommend he looks at 4k IPS panels as opposed to the ones he has picked already, as you likely know I'm a very strong advocate for IPS panels simply because their visual quality is astounding when compared to other panel types.

This is going to be long winded but it's how it is;
If he intends to buy the LGA 2011-3 socket then he should get the 5960X, the 5930k is essentially like buying a crippled piece of hardware on a very high end and very specific socket. The 5930k is still good, but there's no point paying a bunch more for DDR4 if you're settling for the lowest CPU the board can take.
 
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Hey so i need to get some new ram, would you be able to help me out? This is my mobo http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360687781327?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I'm looking for 8gb ddr3 from pccasegear. Thanks
Just looked on pccasegear and damn there's a very nice kit of RAM for a cheap price;
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=28015
Anything else in that price range is substantially worse in aesthetics and performance.
 
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What makes that soo good? It lights up that's cool haha. Would that ram be supported by my mobo?
I was under the assumption it was 2133MHz as the video shows, but it actually isn't, though it's still the best due to price.
It's actually 1600MHz, it doesn't necessarily matter unless you're doing video production, so 1600MHz is fine for your system (I run 1600MHz too).
 
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I was under the assumption it was 2133MHz as the video shows, but it actually isn't, though it's still the best due to price.
It's actually 1600MHz, it doesn't necessarily matter unless you're doing video production, so 1600MHz is fine for your system (I run 1600MHz too).
Hmm okay thanks, i'll buy some today. The ram i have is faulty. The mobo replacement has fixed my pc not starting up but i still have the ram issues, luckily corsair offer a lifetime warranty. But i don't want to wait however long to get the replacements lol. I think the ram i currently have is 1033, assuming they replace it with that same frequency, would it be fine to have all 4 sticks in my pc (considering 2 are 1600 and 2 are 1033)?
 
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I may be a bit off topic, but I was looking for a laptop, I want it to be powerful, but not look super big. Main use is programming, and a lot of multi tasking. What were your thoughts on this, and do you have any recommendations? Products in Canada please.
 
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Hmm okay thanks, i'll buy some today. The ram i have is faulty. The mobo replacement has fixed my pc not starting up but i still have the ram issues, luckily corsair offer a lifetime warranty. But i don't want to wait however long to get the replacements lol. I think the ram i currently have is 1033, assuming they replace it with that same frequency, would it be fine to have all 4 sticks in my pc (considering 2 are 1600 and 2 are 1033)?
Depending on whether or not they produce that RAM anymore might result in you being sent better RAM than what had just died.
If you run two different frequencies of RAM, then the system will operate at the slowest frequency for every stick of RAM, though running multiple (different) sticks of RAM can cause issues.

I may be a bit off topic, but I was looking for a laptop, I want it to be powerful, but not look super big. Main use is programming, and a lot of multi tasking. What were your thoughts on this, and do you have any recommendations? Products in Canada please.
Looks great to me, a strong CPU with plentiful amounts of RAM plus an SSD.
Has everything I'd look for when considering your requirements, should be snappy as well.
 
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A little off-topic here as well, but I'd love to pick your brain and others may benefit from your response too. What are your thoughts on the new MacBook from a technical standpoint?
 
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A little off-topic here as well, but I'd love to pick your brain and others may benefit from your response too. What are your thoughts on the new MacBook from a technical standpoint?
I wouldn't be surprised if you expected this, but I personally hate it.
One issue (rather nitpicky) is the keyboard lackout, the up/down arrow keys are divided which pretty much ruins it for anyone like me with thick fingers. Not only that, but due to the thin design of the laptop itself, they will not have much (if any) travel distance which will feel awful.

That however, is nothing compared to my last issue with it.
Apple as always has seemingly introduced what is damn near a proprietary connector in order to reduce the number of interfaces on the side of the laptop, to ultimately allow for a thinner design, however by making it proprietary you will have to purchase their branded cables and everything in order to get the desired effect.
It also means you will need to carry their adapters around, which are useless for anything else unless it's a MacBook, if you felt then necessity to output to HDMI/VGA etc.
On the plus side, the port they're using is actually USB-C which is a new standard that has an incredibly high bandwidth as well as ~100watt power output to power things such as monitors etc.

The onboard WiFi appears to be decent, I would hazard a guess at ~130MBit/s to 150MBit/s depending on your router's protocols.
RAM/Storage is all good, albeit lacking a little for RAM choices imo, 8GB won't suit everyone.
CPU should be quite capable, though the low-power advertising will suggest that it is heavily underclocked in order to reduce power consumption.
Display (as expected) is fantastic, IPS panel with 226 PPI will look absolutely gorgeous, albeit an odd resolution (2304x1440 16:10 aspect ratio).
 
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