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Weird bans

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Hello fellow Runematers.
So today this strange thing happened to my little bots. It all started as a usual day, nothing predicted the storm that was going to happen. Yesterday after a day of successful botting I decided that today, Jan 30 will be a "day-off" for my dudes, going to play normally, do some skilling and questing. I wake up, login to one of them, go to bank, deposit stuff, check what skills ill be grinding today, then TP to Varrock, run to GE and BAM, disconnect. Trying to reconnect and I get this message: your account has been disabled. WTF.
Going to OSRS account management and I see the following:

Banned: Your account will be available again in 2 days, or earlier if you submit a successful offence appeal.
Your account has been involved in serious rule-breaking. We don't currently share any evidence we hold relating to this type of rule breaking, as to do so may compromise our detection methods.
@ the ban meter is still in green, as if I'm still in the safe zone.

Weird. Ok, trying other accounts. Same story. I was able to login, was online for 5 minutes, went to GE and same result.

I was using the the same bot on all of these for months, no problems so far. Accounts are total level 800 -1k, QP 30-50. Max 10hours per day of bot time, long breaks during the day, different worlds.

Tried surfing the net to find an answer to this 48h ban, because if it is for botting I highly doubt that Jagexs machine would hesitate to apply a perm. ban the same second it detects a 3rd party program. "We think you are a good guy, but you are botting, we will give you a warning, after 2 days sell your shit and gtfo and everybody will be happy or else perm.ban next time" <<< Possible? I think not.

What are your opinion on this? Is it because my IP got in the blacklist? Bots received a certain amount of reports (everyone at the same time, the same amount...)? Or was there a moderator running around the crime scene and manually reporting the suspects?
All in all, I suspect that the botting career for my fellas is as good as over :(
 
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Sounds pretty standard. I've personally seen bans delayed for up to 4 days after a bot was ran, and have heard claims of longer.

If you were botting on many accounts on the same IP they may have been "linked" together.
 
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Thank you for your replies, but you are not getting the point about which I am asking. I am curious about the ban timer, why 48 hours ban but not permanent? And how it might affect me in the future.
Considering the ban delay, from older posts I found out that it might stretch up to 2 weeks from detection, with this I suspect that there may have been some updates to the bot detection system, which were added during the last two Thursday RS updates.
To make matters worse, I have contacted 2 of my friends which got the same scenario as me: logged in, ran to GE and got a 2 day ban.
Is this something to be aware of? Is it happening massively?
These are the questions, on which I would like to find an answer from you guys.

Thank you.
 
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  • Nobody knows how jagex determines if you get 2 day ban or perm except jagex employees
  • There is a general consensus in the community that it is riskier to bot on an acc after it has had a two day ban
  • There probably werent any changes to bot detection
  • If they were also using the same bot, maybe jagex's detection system has picked up on a pattern in the bot and is now watchin gout for it
  • Ban waves happen frequently, it's nothing new
 
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As far as I know, if they have even a slight suspicion or evidence considering the usage of 3rd party software, there is a permanent ban. 2 day ban for botting?
Considering the 2 other guys, we are abusing the same skill, though are using different bots with different patterns. Is it a wave regarding a certain skill?
 
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Some skills are more watched than other. Iv heard Runecrafting and agility is very watched because of the money making method and boring intensity of agility. Then there are of course the other gathering skills that are watched but iv heard those two were the worst. OSBuddy is a 3rd party client that many people use but im not aware of anyone being able to bot on it with Runemate. All i can tell you is to do something like switch a tab or talk to someone in game to change your pattern every hour while a script is running to make it unique to you.
 
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I've heard that this ban wave is associated with the release of RS mobile, as if the staff is making a clean-up before the release or sth. I am curious if anyone is experiencing the same situation as I am at the moment. If it is a massive thing then I want to rise awareness of this. I want to hear any moderator opinion to clarify if it is purely my mistake or maybe there was some major change in bot-busting system of Jagex.
 
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I've heard that this ban wave is associated with the release of RS mobile, as if the staff is making a clean-up before the release or sth. I am curious if anyone is experiencing the same situation as I am at the moment. If it is a massive thing then I want to rise awareness of this. I want to hear any moderator opinion to clarify if it is purely my mistake or maybe there was some major change in bot-busting system of Jagex.
How is the release of mobile related to the amount of botters? Obviously no one knows if there have been changed to the detection system, we're not RuneScape moderators. As long as they don't announce anything it's safe to say nothing has changed. If they manage to ban a lot more players by updating their detection system I can imagine it's something they want to brag about and make it public. Such a thing hasn't happened since the bot watch update so it's safe to assume the system works the same way.
 
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I've heard that this ban wave is associated with the release of RS mobile, as if the staff is making a clean-up before the release or sth. I am curious if anyone is experiencing the same situation as I am at the moment. If it is a massive thing then I want to rise awareness of this. I want to hear any moderator opinion to clarify if it is purely my mistake or maybe there was some major change in bot-busting system of Jagex.

That could be part of the reason, to clear up some of the servers before a huge wave of people join
 
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I took ban from 2 days today, is it safe to return using the runemate on another skill after the suspension?
 
12 year old normie
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I took ban from 2 days today, is it safe to return using the runemate on another skill after the suspension?
Just take it easy. The general consensus is that you get banned faster after a 48 hour ban, but there's plenty of people who just use 48 hour banned accounts and survive perfectly fine.
 
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I will use the runemate again when the suspension is over, if it is banned again it will be permanent. :eek:
 
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