Welcome!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

Sign up now!

v2.4.12 - Clouse!

Client Developer
Joined
Oct 12, 2015
Messages
3,760
Today's update brings massive improvements to Clouse, RuneMate's Cloud-mouse.

Thanks to @Cloud, interaction should now be faster, more accurate, and considerably more responsive than it has ever been.

Clouse will continue to be worked on in the coming weeks to bring you even more performance and accuracy improvements which will help, what is already the most intelligent mouse system on the scene, transcend to a new level.

If you encounter any interaction bugs after today's update, please make them know in the Client & Site support section.
 
Joined
Dec 11, 2015
Messages
4
Today's update brings massive improvements to Clouse, RuneMate's Cloud-mouse.

Thanks to @Cloud, interaction should now be faster, more accurate, and considerably more responsive than it has ever been.

Clouse will continue to be worked on in the coming weeks to bring you even more performance and accuracy improvements which will help, what is already the most intelligent mouse system on the scene, transcend to a new level.

If you encounter any interaction bugs after today's update, please make them know in the Client & Site support section.
Okay so what's intelligent about this mouse system? Like does it basically do random mouse movements or something? please explain in detail would really like to know, thanks!
 
s̶c̶r̶i̶p̶t̶ bot*
Joined
Aug 23, 2015
Messages
2,223
Okay so what's intelligent about this mouse system? Like does it basically do random mouse movements or something? please explain in detail would really like to know, thanks!
Clouse uses biometric data from actual human mouse movements to generate the mouse movements in the bot you're running. Probably one of the most advanced technologies in the botting scene. (This and the Web Walking is absolutely amazing)

A lot of bot authors rely solely on Clouse (and PlayerSense) as their anti-ban system, that's how good it is xD
 
Client Developer
Joined
Oct 12, 2015
Messages
3,760
Okay so what's intelligent about this mouse system? Like does it basically do random mouse movements or something? please explain in detail would really like to know, thanks!

Really it's comprised of two parts:
1. We gather real, human mouse movements (literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions).
2. We create player "profiles" for our users based on biostatistics.

We use the profile to select mouse movements for that specific player. It's crowd-sourced, "cloud" mouse, or Clouse for short :)
 
Java Warlord
Joined
Nov 17, 2014
Messages
4,906
Okay so what's intelligent about this mouse system? Like does it basically do random mouse movements or something? please explain in detail would really like to know, thanks!
Your mouse movements are recorded and normalized, then sent to runemate's cloud where the biometrics of thousands of players is stored. Clouse uses this huge amount of data to simulate human mouse movements, which is confirmed to be very effective against the bot detection system.
 
Joined
Dec 11, 2015
Messages
4
Clouse uses biometric data from actual human mouse movements to generate the mouse movements in the bot you're running. Probably one of the most advanced technologies in the botting scene. (This and the Web Walking is absolutely amazing)

A lot of bot authors rely solely on Clouse (and PlayerSense) as their anti-ban system, that's how good it is xD
First of all, thank you so much for the reply. Learn't a lot. This is really interesting. So when it generates the mouse movements then what happens, like it inserts those mouse moments into the bot script? because a script has the same pattern over and over again which gets you banned, so why would the mouse moment help, it would help to some extent but not when the bot is clicking on the same coordinates? and what is web walking? please explain about that, thanks!
 
Really it's comprised of two parts:
1. We gather real, human mouse movements (literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions).
2. We create player "profiles" for our users based on biostatistics.

We use the profile to select mouse movements for that specific player. It's crowd-sourced, "cloud" mouse, or Clouse for short :)
Thanks for you're reply, really appreciate it. That's really interesting. So once these unique mouse moments are used on you're account then what about the script? as the script repeats and uses the same clicking pattern if you get what i mean, so how does it avoid a ban?
 
Your mouse movements are recorded and normalized, then sent to runemate's cloud where the biometrics of thousands of players is stored. Clouse uses this huge amount of data to simulate human mouse movements, which is confirmed to be very effective against the bot detection system.
Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it mate. That's so interesting wow , very unique indeed. So how does this clouse work with a script? like a script does the same pattern over and over again ? Like i know it would do unique mouse moments but then the script would have the same pattern? so how does this avoid a ban if you get what i mean? because all these scripts are not unique and have the same clicking pattern on coordinates right?
 
Client Developer
Joined
Oct 12, 2015
Messages
3,760
First of all, thank you so much for the reply. Learn't a lot. This is really interesting. So when it generates the mouse movements then what happens, like it inserts those mouse moments into the bot script? because a script has the same pattern over and over again which gets you banned, so why would the mouse moment help, it would help to some extent but not when the bot is clicking on the same coordinates? and what is web walking? please explain about that, thanks!
 

Thanks for you're reply, really appreciate it. That's really interesting. So once these unique mouse moments are used on you're account then what about the script? as the script repeats and uses the same clicking pattern if you get what i mean, so how does it avoid a ban?

When the bot makes an API call which requires a mouse movement, Clouse selects an appropriate mouse path for that specific movement.
 
Joined
Dec 11, 2015
Messages
4
When the bot makes an API call which requires a mouse movement, Clouse selects an appropriate mouse path for that specific movement.
what is a API? i understand that it requires a mouse moment but the thing is, so basically when the script runs, the script is basically so it can just see the objects in runescape and then Clouse does rest of the action on where to click uniquely?
 
Joined
Dec 10, 2014
Messages
3,255
First of all, thank you so much for the reply. Learn't a lot. This is really interesting. So when it generates the mouse movements then what happens, like it inserts those mouse moments into the bot script? because a script has the same pattern over and over again which gets you banned, so why would the mouse moment help, it would help to some extent but not when the bot is clicking on the same coordinates? and what is web walking? please explain about that, thanks!
 

Thanks for you're reply, really appreciate it. That's really interesting. So once these unique mouse moments are used on you're account then what about the script? as the script repeats and uses the same clicking pattern if you get what i mean, so how does it avoid a ban?
 

Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it mate. That's so interesting wow , very unique indeed. So how does this clouse work with a script? like a script does the same pattern over and over again ? Like i know it would do unique mouse moments but then the script would have the same pattern? so how does this avoid a ban if you get what i mean? because all these scripts are not unique and have the same clicking pattern on coordinates right?
It avoids a ban by having human mouse paths, and no, the bots don't click on the same coordinates each time. They mimic human targetting when clicking on any certain thing, unless screen coordinates are defined as that "certain thing".
 
Joined
May 27, 2016
Messages
745
what is a API? i understand that it requires a mouse moment but the thing is, so basically when the script runs, the script is basically so it can just see the objects in runescape and then Clouse does rest of the action on where to click uniquely?

hello again still here? thought you dident like us
 
Joined
Dec 11, 2015
Messages
4
hello again still here? thought you dident like us
Dude, it is either you have memory problems or it's just pure retardness lol. I didn't say i don't like Runemate. I like Rune mate but by me just saying RID is better, does that make it that i don't like Rune Mate.
 
Joined
Jan 28, 2017
Messages
492
When the bot makes an API call which requires a mouse movement, Clouse selects an appropriate mouse path for that specific movement.

That's really interesting.

How/Who feeds the data for the movement? And how does the system know it's a correct movement (because the human data could be a misclick)?
 
Java Warlord
Joined
Nov 17, 2014
Messages
4,906
That's really interesting.

How/Who feeds the data for the movement? And how does the system know it's a correct movement (because the human data could be a misclick)?
your mouse movements get recorded while using spectre, normalized, and stored into a database. that involves things like the efficiency of your movement, your click length etc.
And whether it was a missclick or not doesnt matter. what matters it in which manner you moved your mouse etc.
 
Mod Automation
Joined
Jul 26, 2013
Messages
3,044
Really it's comprised of two parts:
1. We gather real, human mouse movements (literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions).
2. We create player "profiles" for our users based on biostatistics.

We use the profile to select mouse movements for that specific player. It's crowd-sourced, "cloud" mouse, or Clouse for short :)
*billions
 
Top